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Are healthcare workers paid too much?

January 27, 2010 | Richard Pizzi, Editorial Director

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LAS VEGAS – Healthcare in the United States is becoming increasingly unaffordable, and one of the contributing factors may be the high salaries earned by healthcare employees.

Speaking recently at the Symposium on Payment Solutions for Healthcare Providers and Payers in Las Vegas, William Bertschinger, divisional chairman of finance at the Mayo Clinic, said healthcare labor costs are driving systemic inefficiency.

“Seventy percent of the high cost of healthcare is due to labor costs,” Bertschinger said. “There are too many full-time employees and too many employees paid at too high a rate.”

Bertschinger discussed data from the federal Bureau of Labor Statistics and the Kaiser/HRET Survey of Employer-Sponsored Health Benefits that showed the earnings of healthcare workers rising at a faster rate than overall U.S. workers and faster than overall inflation.

For instance, the overall inflation rate in 2008 was 29 percent higher than in 1999. U.S. workers’ earnings rose 34 percent over that same period, while healthcare workers’ earnings have risen 57 percent since 1999. Bertschinger noted that the upward trend in healthcare salaries has increased since 1999, with healthcare workers generally earning 1-4 percent more per year than non-healthcare workers.

“In order to cut costs in healthcare, we need to reduce the number of full-time employees, reign-in salaries, and stop increasing the fees we charge patients,” Bertschinger said.

Healthcare salaries are not usually mentioned as part of the overall affordability equation, Bertschinger said. He noted that even when healthcare executives have made hard decisions to cut full-time employees, the potential savings were not “banked,” but were simply redeployed to other areas of the budget.

A big part of the problem is the healthcare revenue cycle itself, Bertschinger claimed. Revenue cycle has the lowest patient satisfaction scores in healthcare, and the highest costs per patient – 70 to 90 percent of which are labor costs.

“The healthcare revenue cycle is not complex, it’s convoluted,” Bertschinger said. “We spend 5 percent of our total costs – or $120 billion – on the revenue cycle. That’s in addition to another $600 billion – or 25 percent – on administration. It’s really a sad state we’re in.”

A sea change in management philosophy is necessary to move healthcare toward systemic affordability, Bertschinger said.

“Leadership is the number one factor in changing the culture of healthcare,” he said. “Cost reductions will occur when there are fewer people providing services at fewer facilities, working at a much lower pay scale.”

Richard Pizzi
Editorial Director for MedTech Media
Follow Richard on Twitter @HFNeditor
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Reader Comments (33)Login to Post a Comment

forrester says: healthcare workers paid too much
May 10, 2011 | 1:24PM GMT

Perfect, let's blame the nurses (since they are the vast majority of employees in healthcare).
No mention of skyrocketing administration salaries and bonuses, imperial lobbies, preferred parking, private dining facilities.

Come work a day in my job, assume life and death care of 6 or 7 ER patients, and then come talk to me.

Jeb Bush gets 450,000 a year just to be on the TENET board of directors.

Christine3 says: Mr. Bertschinger should
February 28, 2011 | 9:38PM GMT

Mr. Bertschinger should seriously spend a week in the work-life of a full-time bedside nurse. I dont think that anyone that did would ever agree that bedside healthcare professionals are overpaid.

MN RN says: Health Care Workers are NOT Paid Too Much
October 07, 2010 | 6:53PM GMT

First, the writer gunde said on 1/27/10: "Allied healthcare providers at the $30/hr salary rate with benefits added are knocking down $78,000+ per year." Maybe true if they work full time. The majority of patient care personnel, specifically bedside nurses, tend to be female and they are the primary caregivers, not only of their chldren but increasingly of their parents, in-laws and other family members; not to mention the days off taken without pay in cases of sick childcare so they don't tap into their earned sick/vacation time. FEW nurses work full time so they don't see that $78K/yr.

Second, many go on for extra certifications or Masters Degrees but can't move up in the world in their region/hospital so they stay at the bedside & pay off those edicational costs from their own pocket or maybe with a small stipend from small tuition reimbusement benefit (certainly NOT much of the full cost for the education).

Third, a partial list of other things nurses and allied staff deal with: patient acuity goes up; more patients to care for in a shift; regular educational updates in equipment, treatment options and meds, etc. The list goes on . . . Nurses and allied health care workers deserve their pay. No pay cuts for them.

Let's look at the wasted dollars spent in other non-essential areas first.

artmhh41 says: William Bertschinger, How could you be so completely wrong?
October 07, 2010 | 1:12PM GMT

This is the worst assessment of healthcare finance I have ever seen.
1. you're cost for personnel me be high but take a look at your fixed costs. You need to spend millions on IT software systems, the latest greatest lab and imaging equipment, surgical supply's. Did you look at those cost? You're spending more money on these with less return on the dollar than you are for staff. AND you need to do it if you want to stay in the technologically advancing market.

2. your healthcare staff provides patient care. YOU are attacking your front line: The people that ACTUALLY bring revenue into the hospital. With out them, you're nothing.

3. If you think these cost are going to go down, you are delusional!!!! Nursing schools can't keep up with demend, nurses don't want the liability associated with teaching. I think you'll find the same issues with pharmacy and physicians as well.

I4. your only alternative would be trying to utilize under-educated, lower cost staff. You should then also prepare for higher error rates and lower patient satification levels (don't send a 6 month trained nursing assistant to do a job that should be done by a degreed nurse).

I think this artical makes you look like a bonehead!

mayostaff says: Our pay
April 22, 2010 | 7:35AM GMT

Being one that works at Mayo it's not very encouraging to see a CEO at Mayo say this about every single person that works at Mayo. Being just a lowly peon worker I would love to see 40-50% less management/CEOS CFOS etc as that is where all the huge salaries are that are not warranted .Doctors and Nurses deserve their pay. Do I really need 8 levels of management to do my job? No. None of us go to Vegas for our job.What does that cost? I think the speaker needs to go part time with no benefits for him or his family. And take a pay cut. I sure have not gotten a 57% increase in salary and I have been here 20 years

poor-perso says: To all overpaid medical field workers
March 06, 2010 | 8:03PM GMT

I noticed that most if not all of the comments to the author were from medical field workers and I would like to add a lowly common person's comment to the mix.
I wholeheartedly agree with the author about the high cost of medical treatment being mostly due to the outrageously high salary requirements of medical staff. This includes doctors, surgeons, and nurses. I'm sorry I can't feel sorry for you (medical staff) when I (single earner) am making a measley 26000 a year and can't afford a simple doctor's office visit. I know you guys work hard, study hard and deserve decent pay, but then again...so do I. I'm a professional in my field (NON-medical) but am not making 20.00+ hour pay.

Sincerely: From a dumb, uneducated peon making 13.00 a hour trying to provide for his family.

kaferlily says: who is paid too much?
February 09, 2010 | 1:44PM GMT

I have been a nurse for over 25 years. My salary maxed out years ago and, in fact, I now make less per hour, not only in real 2010 income but also in terms of inflation than I did even 5 years ago. I am not given monetary or even verbal reward for my experience or education. Rather I am considered expendable -- no more than a cog in the corporate wheel that is US health "care". Now there's an oxymoron. It is much less expensive to replace me with a new grad or patient care technician. Those who suffer are the patients, who are tended by inexperienced and overworked bedside nurses who are thrown into the endless cycle of the nursing shortage without time to develop crucial assessment skills. Facilities prefer to orient a revolving door of new staff rather than retain experienced and dedicated nurses. They dangle recruitment incentives to nurses at the entrance while pushing expert nurses out the exit. When these new nurses earn their bonuses, they jump to the next carrot at the next facility and the cycle continues. The system does not reward nurses who stay at the bedside. The big salaries are earned at the top of the food chain by those who prefer to hire consultants to look for solutions rather than ask those who actually do the work.

moneill says: Who is going to work if you cut salaries?
February 08, 2010 | 1:08AM GMT

i can tell you right now, for anyone who's never been to a walgreens at 5:30pm... if you start cutting pharmacist salaries in order to make up for overall healthcare costs, beware. I know too many pharmacists that only work at Walgreens for the money. It definately isn't for the patient care they are able to provide in that busy setting. if that starts to go away you'll have a hard time finding community chain retail pharmacists, and a really hard time finding good ones.

think about it. if you start cutting the salaries of health care professionals, that pay at least $100,000 to go to school and for doctors, more. and invest 6 to 10 yrs of their lives for schooling, you're going to start losing quality.

not to mention if you cut jobs and make them even busier...Plus, do we really want to lose more jobs...

it doesnt take a brain surgeon to figure this out. pun intended. i know for a fact that pharmacist salaries were driven by demand. there's a reason why there's a walgreens on every corner now and there werent 10 yrs ago. more people want meds. high demand = high cost. think about it. if everyone who ever got an upset stomach just took tums instead of running to their doctor for nexium, charging their insurance for the MD visit, then charging their insurance for the RX, just to get home and not take the medication correctly. (guaranteed that 90% of people on nexium arent taking it compliantly and therefore decreasing effectiveness.)

if you want healthcare costs to go down, your choices are:
1. increase competition btwn insurance companies, allowing them to sell across state lines.
2. start demanding that your employeer drops you from your group enrolled insurance at work and give you the difference they pay in premiums. they'll say "no" of course, but if enough people start doing it...
3. stop running to the doctor every time you get a hiccup.
4. support caps on litigation against health professionals. yes, it sucks when something goes wrong w/ your medical treatment, but is it worth 10x as much as you'll make in your life regardless? cover the needed medical treatment. cover psych costs and help them get re-established in life, but limit the ridiculous pain and suffering millions.
5. tell your congressmen/rep that you want people on medicaid drug tested on a regular and random basis. if they're going to reap the benefits of my hard work, the least they can be is not sitting at home doing something illegal. i'd lose my job for doing drugs and getting caught. shouldnt they at least lose the free ride? basically they are getting paid...so it is like a job for them...
6. require people to have a real emergency to use the ER. sorry, but i have access to see what people are admitted to the ER for. you'd be shocked at how many are: "sore throat," "back pain," "cough/fever." oh, and how many of them got a ride to and from the ER in an ambulance b/c they called 911 about their "emergency." oh, and they dont have to pay for it either, you've got that one covered. wait til morning and see the doctor or use a clinic if you really need a doctor... not the er.
7. start paying CASH for your doctor visit. buy a catastrophic insurance plan that will cover you in case of a stroke or MI and then pay cash for everything else. call around and ask the doctors if they give a cash discount. you'd be surprised at how many will be willing to take on an patient that will pay for their visit up front and they dont have to mess w/ the insurance paperwork. if you dont see the MD often, this could save you over the course of the year anyway. although, you will then be branded as an "un-insured" american and therefore be part of the people we're all supposedly trying to "save" now.
8. think about real solutions instead of buying into the class-warefare rhetoric thats been going around lately. sorry, rich people provide jobs to everyone else. i will stand by this until i get a knock on my door from a homeless guy who's offering me a 40hr/week + 401K package. until then i will either choose to work for someone who's richer than i am or will venture out on my own business and try to become that rich guy. economics and capitalism work so long as our brains are turned on too.

I agree that drug companies charge a lot for medications. Some times it is warranted. By the time the drug comes on the market they may have been working on it for 15-20 years and have spent millions in production already. To top it off, another company is using their info to make a generic that will be able to come out in a year b/c it took so long to produce the drug. But, if we want new drugs for diseases we can't currently treat...if we want people researching cures for cancer, etc. Who do you think is going to do that?

If you think healthcare costs too much, quit using the healthcare system. Go to school yourself to know how to treat yourself and then research how to make the medication to treat yourself and how to dose the medication, etc.

kcparsons says: Thank you Mr. Bertschinger!
February 02, 2010 | 1:01PM GMT

My sincere thanks to the divisional chairman of finance at the Mayo Clinic for offering up such opinions. The "commoditization" of healthcare is in line with his opinions and would be further supported by the rise in "medical tourism" that causes paying customers to go to other countries for cheaper procedures. I am also grateful for the firestorm of comments from providers with alternative views. As a physician who made progressively less the last few years of clinical practice, despite no decrement in patient load, I can say that ins. contract discounts for procedures and E&M codes, shrinking Medicare payments and roll backs in workers comp and medicaid payments are already accomplishing what Mr. Bertschinger proposes, if he is talking about physicians. Now I spend time hanging out with the incoming generation of medical students who are just beginning the process I started in 1966. I finished medical school with zero debt and a paid off automobile. But in eight years my young colleagues will have more than $100,000 in debt, and they will be looking for places to practice where they can have a decent life style (what better definition for "delayed gratification?") and enough left over to cover their student loans. By the way, does Mayo Clinic pay off the loans of the faculty they hire? Ask a mid-career physician if he or she would do it all over again, if they had known then what they know now? Their answers would make engineering and business schools look much more attractive to the "best and brightest" that we need to be recruiting to our medical schools today and tomorrow.

justin98 says: Are Healthcare Workers Paid Too Much?
February 02, 2010 | 11:54AM GMT

As an executive search consultant specializing in healthcare and the Mother of an Oncology Nurse who cares for very sick and/or dying patients, I cannot disagree more with Mr. Bertschinger's comments. I also cannot imagine a hospital that runs on part-timers (with no, or reduced benefits available) who are not paid a living wage, but, yet,are expected to be knowledgeable of, and proficient with, the latest technologies, protocols and pharmaceuticals. Who would want a job like that? And who would want to be that person's patient? Not I, in either case.

If Mr. Bertschinger's comments are reported correctly here, I have to believe he has spent too many years in a financial silo and has probably never been the recipient of quality healthcare, provided by the hands of a smart, well-trained nurse, nurse practitioner, etc. who loves what he/she does for a living. There is a lot of waste in healthcare, but don't blame it on the people who are taking care of patients.

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